Comments on: Quiz 5.2.7: Screen Reader Visibility Test #7 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/ Seeking Best Accessibility Practices Fri, 16 May 2008 02:57:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: W Phillips http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-286 W Phillips Sun, 24 Apr 2005 22:52:22 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-286 Firefox 1.0 with Fangs 0.81 displays the text 'These are hidden words''. Firefox 1.0 with Fangs 0.81
displays the text ‘These are hidden words”.

]]> By: Seky http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-287 Seky Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:36:01 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-287 Hi! Tested with Safari 1.2.4 on Mac OS X 10.3.8. It doesn't show the text. And in addition it even does not find the text, when you search for it! (Sure, i found it in the source) Is this the effect you wanted to achieve? I find hidden text, which still remains searchable, to be more useful ... Hi!
Tested with Safari 1.2.4 on Mac OS X 10.3.8.
It doesn’t show the text. And in addition it even does not find the text, when you search for it! (Sure, i found it in the source) Is this the effect you wanted to achieve? I find hidden text, which still remains searchable, to be more useful …

]]> By: Bob Easton http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-288 Bob Easton Sun, 24 Apr 2005 23:44:00 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-288 Seky said: <blockquote>Is this the effect you wanted to achieve? I find hidden text, which still remains searchable, to be more useful …</blockquote> The purpose of these tests is to find ways to hide material from the display screen while making it available to Screen Reader programs. You can learn more in the <a href="http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/10/quizzes-52x-talk-to-me/" rel="nofollow">introduction to the first set of tests</a>. The results you saw are what we want. Seky said:

Is this the effect you wanted to achieve? I find hidden text, which still remains searchable, to be more useful …

The purpose of these tests is to find ways to hide material from the display screen while making it available to Screen Reader programs. You can learn more in the introduction to the first set of tests. The results you saw are what we want.

]]> By: Bob Easton http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-302 Bob Easton Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:25:00 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-302 Jaws 5.0 with IE: hidden text is spoken, not displayed Jaws 5.0 with IE:
hidden text is spoken, not displayed

]]> By: Bob Easton http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-308 Bob Easton Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:51:18 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-308 IBM Home Page Reader 3.04 with embedded IE: hidden text is spoken, not displayed. IBM Home Page Reader 3.04 with embedded IE:
hidden text is spoken, not displayed.

]]> By: Bob Easton http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-319 Bob Easton Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:23:21 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-319 Fangs 0.82 with Firefox 1.0.3 Fangs displays the hidden words. Firefox hides the hidden words. Fangs 0.82 with Firefox 1.0.3
Fangs displays the hidden words.
Firefox hides the hidden words.

]]> By: Bob Easton http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-320 Bob Easton Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:24:00 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-320 Fangs 0.82 with Firefox 1.0.3 Fangs displays the hidden words. Firefox hides the hidden words. Fangs 0.82 with Firefox 1.0.3
Fangs displays the hidden words.
Firefox hides the hidden words.

]]> By: Bob Easton http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-321 Bob Easton Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:24:22 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-321 Opera 7.54 hides the hidden words. Opera 7.54 hides the hidden words.

]]> By: Bob Easton http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-332 Bob Easton Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:42:26 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-332 Opera 8.0 beta speaks the hidden words hides the hidden words Opera 8.0 beta
speaks the hidden words
hides the hidden words

]]> By: Bob Easton http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-340 Bob Easton Fri, 29 Apr 2005 11:56:35 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-340 WindowEyes 4.5 does not speak the hidden words WindowEyes 4.5
does not speak the hidden words

]]> By: Bob Easton http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-351 Bob Easton Fri, 29 Apr 2005 12:02:11 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-351 Jaws 6.1 and IE 6 speaks the hidden words Jaws 6.1 and IE 6
speaks the hidden words

]]> By: Charles Belov http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-358 Charles Belov Sat, 30 Apr 2005 00:00:08 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-358 Jaws 4.0 with IE 6.0 Virtual Cursor on - yes/no Virtual Cursor off - no/no Virtual Cursor on is default unless user has set their preferences to off. Jaws 4.0 with IE 6.0
Virtual Cursor on - yes/no
Virtual Cursor off - no/no
Virtual Cursor on is default unless user has set their preferences to off.

]]> By: Bob Easton http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-370 Bob Easton Sat, 30 Apr 2005 13:31:43 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-370 Connect Outloud 2.0 and IE 6 speaks the hidden words does not display the hidden words Connect Outloud 2.0 and IE 6
speaks the hidden words
does not display the hidden words

]]> By: Roger Johansson http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-392 Roger Johansson Sun, 08 May 2005 19:36:35 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-392 VoiceOver and Safari 2.0: Speaks the hidden words and does not display them. VoiceOver and Safari 2.0: Speaks the hidden words and does not display them.

]]> By: Bob Easton http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-616 Bob Easton Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:45:05 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-616 Window Eyes 5.0 and IE6 does not speak the hidden words. Window Eyes 5.0 and IE6 does not speak the hidden words.

]]> By: Access Matters   : Speaking form labels - Summary http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-617 Access Matters   : Speaking form labels - Summary Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:46:39 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-617 [...] By the way, a second technique recommended in that same W3C example suggested using nosize. As James Edwards from Brothercake reminded me in the comments, that the nosize technique also fails in one of the current leading screen readers, Window Eyes 5.0. So, it too merits: BZZZZZZZZZZZZZT: Not a best practice. [...] […] By the way, a second technique recommended in that same W3C example suggested using nosize. As James Edwards from Brothercake reminded me in the comments, that the nosize technique also fails in one of the current leading screen readers, Window Eyes 5.0. So, it too merits: BZZZZZZZZZZZZZT: Not a best practice. […]

]]> By: Catherine http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-899 Catherine Fri, 06 Jan 2006 03:14:20 +0000 http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/#comment-899 I didn't see anything with Windows IE 6.0. I didn’t see anything with Windows IE 6.0.

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