Comments on: Quiz 5.2.13: Speaking form labels

by: Michael Gower

Fri, 16 Jan 2009 03:44:19 +0000

Tested with Jaws 10 on IE 6. Hidden labels are spoken in both forms mode and the regular virtual cursor mode. Hidden paragraph not spoken. In speak all, the hidden label attribs are spoken first, once as a label, and then as the forms element itself, e.g., “hidden label: expiration month hidden label: expiration month combo box” Moving down by line, or using forms mode, the label is only read once.

by: sprungmarker » Blog Archive » Die Testbeispiele von Access Matters: wie Krimis

Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:32:42 +0000

[…] auch wie ein Krimi: die Testanordnungen von Access Matters. Sie entwerfen einfach Beispiele, wie Labels in Formularen, die auf unsichtbar mit CSS (display: none) gesetzt werden, und rufen dazu auf, dieses Beispiel mit […]

by: sprungmarker » Die Testbeispiele von Access Matters: wie Krimis

Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:13:09 +0000

[…] Für mich immer auch wie ein Krimi: die Testanordnungen von Access Matters. Sie entwerfen einfach Beispiele, wie Labels in Formularen, die auf unsichtbar mit CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) (display: none) gesetzt werden, und rufen dazu auf, dieses Beispiel mit verschiedenen Screenreadern und Textbrowsern zu testen. Die Testberichte (Kommentare) lesen sich neben dem hohen Informationsgehalt schlicht sehr spannend. So werden von etlichen Screenreadern die unsichtbaren Labels trotz allem vorgelesen, jedoch scheint es dabei auch eine Hierarchie in den HTML-Elementen zu geben: Unsichtbare Labels werden eher vorgelesen als etwa unsichtbare Absätze (P-Tag), […]

by: Radrigo

Fri, 03 Mar 2006 02:16:08 +0000

At the end of the test it says to use the back-button to review the logs collected during the test, but when I return to the previous page the text area has been deleted and all is has is a document.focus.

by: colin

Fri, 16 Sep 2005 23:24:52 +0000

Not a screen reader, but- Lynx for windows displays both the hidden labels and the hidden paragraph. Both appear as if they were normal in every possible way.

by: Bob Easton

Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:59:23 +0000

Window Eyes 5.0 and IE 6 with the updated test case.

Window Eyes DOES speak the hidden labels in any reading mode. It does NOT speak the hidden paragraph in any reading mode. Therfore, we see that display:none is obeyed for some elements and not for others, independent of reading mode.

by: Bob Easton

Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:57:54 +0000

Jaws 6.1 and IE 6 with the updated test case.

Jaws DOES speak the hidden labels in all reading modes. Jaws does NOT speak the hidden paragraph. Therefore, we see that display:none is obeyed for some elements and not for others, independent of reading mode.

Listen to a recording.

by: Bob Easton

Thu, 01 Sep 2005 18:56:24 +0000

HPR 3.04 and updated version of the test case.

HPR does NOT speak the hidden labels in straight through reading mode.
HPR DOES speak the hidden labels in control reading mode.

HPR does NOT speak the hidden paragraph in either mode. Therefore, we see that display:none is obeyed for some elements and not for others, depending on reading mode.

Listen to a recording of straight through mode.
Lieten to a recording of control reading mode.

by: Bob Easton

Thu, 01 Sep 2005 09:07:28 +0000

Communication with the HPR development team confirms that the unexpected spelling out of the last word in the hidden labels is a known bug in version 3.04.

by: pam

Mon, 29 Aug 2005 15:50:18 +0000

Opera 8.01 (Windows)

Opera does not read the hidden text in straight through reading. Unlike Fire Vox, it reads all the items (months and years) in the selection lists.

Fire Vox only reads the current value in the box.