Comments on: Speaking form labels - Summary

by: Css howto » Multiple form labels and screen readers

Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:29:52 +0000

[…] A couple of years ago, Bob Easton set up a multiple label test case that reveals similar results, discussed in Speaking form labels - Summary. […]

by: Bob Easton

Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:28:39 +0000

Michael, What does FF 3 and JAWS 10 do?

by: Michael Gower

Sun, 18 Jan 2009 17:25:46 +0000

I assume this is a matching issue between jaws and browsers, but I found I got better performance with Jaws 6.2 and these tests with IE6 than I did with the same browser (and Firefox 2) with Jaws 10. Jaws 6.2 reads the information as presented. Jaws 10 rereads the label information twice (e.g., Month Month collapsed 2004…) Jaws 10 also reread the “Enter the month and year of expiration:” twice when going to the first combobox, month. In forms mode, the controls are read as expected without repeats. I suspect that IE7 would produce better results with Jaws10. I will test and post results.

by: mush

Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:33:26 +0000

I am facing sm issues .
1) How to make JAWS read iframes..in my website i have used iframe for popup’s. so wen a popup comes jaws doest read out which popup comes. i tried by giving a title attribute to the iframe but it doesnt seem to help.
However it reads out for every popup wen im using firefox. i want same thing even in IE.

2) How to make JAWS read LABELS. only label.
i have a label inside a

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Wed, 05 Jul 2006 21:26:50 +0000

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by: Bob Easton

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:08:54 +0000

Tobias,
Refer to all the testing done previously. You can see that what you propose is a combination of techniques #7 (nosize), #9 (offleft) and #11 (negative text indent). Using all three is unnecessary overkill. Use only #8 or #11, and let the browser do less work.

by: Tobias Bergius

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:38:34 +0000

Have you tried using this technique?

label {
font-size: 0;
margin-left: -9999px;
text-indent: -9999px;
}
select {
display: block;
float: left;
}

by: Bob Easton

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:35:34 +0000

THANKS James! (Brothercake) You are correct. I overlooked the Window Eyes 5.0 failures for nosize. That one has enough market share to recommend against using this technique. I’ll revise the recommendation.

Thanks for catching it.

by: brothercake

Sun, 11 Sep 2005 08:42:34 +0000

How come you’re recommending “nosize” as a universally suitable technique, when we know that it fails for some - http://www.access-matters.com/2005/04/24/quiz-527-screen-reader-test-7/

offleft and offtop positioning, fab, but nosize is just as broken as display:none for practical use.

by: Bob Easton

Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:30:44 +0000

IBM Home Page Reader 3.04 - form reading mode

Interrupted reading and used Alt+o to move to controls. The legend was spoken once at the start of the form. Each of the other controls spoke the control’s label and value. Each label is spelled out letter by letter due to a known bug.

Listen to a recording.