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	<title>Comments on: Quiz 5.2.9a: Screen Reader Test #9a</title>
	<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/</link>
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		<title>By: Bob Easton</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-625</link>
		<author>Bob Easton</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>IBM Home Page Reader 3.04 speaks the hidden words, but does not display them. Exactly as expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IBM Home Page Reader 3.04 speaks the hidden words, but does not display them. Exactly as expected.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Easton</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-626</link>
		<author>Bob Easton</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-626</guid>
					<description>Jaws 6.1 and IE 6 speaks the hidden words, but does not display them. Exactly as expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaws 6.1 and IE 6 speaks the hidden words, but does not display them. Exactly as expected.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Easton</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-627</link>
		<author>Bob Easton</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-627</guid>
					<description>Window Eyes 5.0 and IE 6 speaks the hidden words, but does not display them.  Exactly as expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Window Eyes 5.0 and IE 6 speaks the hidden words, but does not display them.  Exactly as expected.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Easton</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-628</link>
		<author>Bob Easton</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 11:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-628</guid>
					<description>HAL 6.5.1 and IE6 speaks the hidden words, but does not display them. Exactly as expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAL 6.5.1 and IE6 speaks the hidden words, but does not display them. Exactly as expected.</p>
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		<title>By: kerri</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-629</link>
		<author>kerri</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-629</guid>
					<description>What's the difference between putting something 1000px off to the left, and 9000px off to the left, then? In my last project, I actually put things off top and left... -1000 top, and -1000 left, and made it fixed. 

Wouldn't you expect these to all behave the same, no matter the pixel count? Or should I test my pages with all screen readers again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the difference between putting something 1000px off to the left, and 9000px off to the left, then? In my last project, I actually put things off top and left&#8230; -1000 top, and -1000 left, and made it fixed. </p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t you expect these to all behave the same, no matter the pixel count? Or should I test my pages with all screen readers again?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Easton</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-630</link>
		<author>Bob Easton</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-630</guid>
					<description>If you use 1000px, there's the possibility that the hidden material will invade the viewport for people blessed with very high resolution screens.

For example, we started using off-left as 999px (save a byte!).  That worked fine until the rich guy doen the hall walked in with a 1600x1200 laptop with a browser opened to full screen and asked about the wierd stuff overlaying the left part of the screen.  That's when we changed one line of CSS to 9000px.

It'll be a while before we get to screens wide enough for 9000xp to be the same problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you use 1000px, there&#8217;s the possibility that the hidden material will invade the viewport for people blessed with very high resolution screens.</p>
<p>For example, we started using off-left as 999px (save a byte!).  That worked fine until the rich guy doen the hall walked in with a 1600&#215;1200 laptop with a browser opened to full screen and asked about the wierd stuff overlaying the left part of the screen.  That&#8217;s when we changed one line of CSS to 9000px.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be a while before we get to screens wide enough for 9000xp to be the same problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Brady</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-634</link>
		<author>Jason Brady</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2005 19:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-634</guid>
					<description>Why did you choos 9000? is there a better number, like when 999 saves a byte? why not choose 9999?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why did you choos 9000? is there a better number, like when 999 saves a byte? why not choose 9999?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Easton</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-635</link>
		<author>Bob Easton</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-635</guid>
					<description>9000 is plenty large enough to keep the material from invading the viewport.  999 was not, and only saved one byte from 1000 which was also too small.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9000 is plenty large enough to keep the material from invading the viewport.  999 was not, and only saved one byte from 1000 which was also too small.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-641</link>
		<author>Becky</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-641</guid>
					<description>Using WindowEyes 5.5 beta b with IE 6 the hidden words are spoken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using WindowEyes 5.5 beta b with IE 6 the hidden words are spoken.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-642</link>
		<author>Becky</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-642</guid>
					<description>Window Eyes 5.5 betaB with Firebox 1.5 beta1 does speak the hidden words. The hidden words are not displayed (they were not displayed with IE 6, either).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Window Eyes 5.5 betaB with Firebox 1.5 beta1 does speak the hidden words. The hidden words are not displayed (they were not displayed with IE 6, either).</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-643</link>
		<author>Becky</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-643</guid>
					<description>JAWS 6.2 with IE 6 does speak the hidden words but they are not displayed.  This surprised me since Bob found that JAWS 6.1 did not speak them???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JAWS 6.2 with IE 6 does speak the hidden words but they are not displayed.  This surprised me since Bob found that JAWS 6.1 did not speak them???</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-644</link>
		<author>Becky</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2005 17:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-644</guid>
					<description>oops, JAWS 6.1 does speak the hidden words - my mistake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops, JAWS 6.1 does speak the hidden words - my mistake!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Easton</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-653</link>
		<author>Bob Easton</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Sep 2005 12:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-653</guid>
					<description>THANKS Becky!  Esp for the beta versions that a lot of people haven't tried yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THANKS Becky!  Esp for the beta versions that a lot of people haven&#8217;t tried yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncermaeref</title>
		<link>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-126294</link>
		<author>Uncermaeref</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 06:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.access-matters.com/2005/09/13/quiz-529a-screen-reader-test-9a/#comment-126294</guid>
					<description>Борьба мышей: Микки или Диддл?

Где-то известны Покемоны, где-то - черепашки Ниндзя.  А есть такой популярный герой -  мышонок Diddl. С этим сипотичным существом делают плюшевые игрушки, игрушки сувениры, канцтовары, подарки детям и многое другое. 

Если Вы ищете игрушку сувенир для своего ребенка, то лучшего, чем это существо Вам не найти. 

Это что то среднее между мышонком и тушканчиком. Его имя знает любой школьник в Европе. 

Это - Диддл (Diddl). Для того чтобы понять, насколько он популярен, достаточно зайти в любую школу.  Вы тотчас же увидите его на всех предметах: ручках, пеналах, тетрадях, ластиках, линейках, блокнотах 

Всего существует около 1000 товаров, со сказочным персонажем. Даже сами создатели не могут объяснить, с чем связана популярность Диддла.

Теперь и в Росси появился &lt;a href="http://www.diddlshop.ru" rel="nofollow"&gt;детский магазин игрушек &lt;/a&gt;где можно приобрести Товары  Diddl, Диддлина, Галупи, Пимболи, Мимихоппс</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Борьба мышей: Микки или Диддл?</p>
<p>Где-то известны Покемоны, где-то - черепашки Ниндзя.  А есть такой популярный герой -  мышонок Diddl. С этим сипотичным существом делают плюшевые игрушки, игрушки сувениры, канцтовары, подарки детям и многое другое. </p>
<p>Если Вы ищете игрушку сувенир для своего ребенка, то лучшего, чем это существо Вам не найти. </p>
<p>Это что то среднее между мышонком и тушканчиком. Его имя знает любой школьник в Европе. </p>
<p>Это - Диддл (Diddl). Для того чтобы понять, насколько он популярен, достаточно зайти в любую школу.  Вы тотчас же увидите его на всех предметах: ручках, пеналах, тетрадях, ластиках, линейках, блокнотах </p>
<p>Всего существует около 1000 товаров, со сказочным персонажем. Даже сами создатели не могут объяснить, с чем связана популярность Диддла.</p>
<p>Теперь и в Росси появился <a href="http://www.diddlshop.ru" rel="nofollow">детский магазин игрушек </a>где можно приобрести Товары  Diddl, Диддлина, Галупи, Пимболи, Мимихоппс</p>
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